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A Leprechaun · Dec 12, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25

Ok I have just come up with this and have only tried it in a couple places so bear with me.

Uber-Adrenaline Hammer

Use
PvE

Idea
The thoery is to have constant adrenaline, without having to build it up, and combining it with a hammers huge dps.

Equiptment
Armour - Dreadnoughts + Stoneskin Gauntlets
weapon - Max, 15^50, Zealous Summit Hammer of Hammer Mastery +1 (20%)
*(note this is just my set-up i think anything will do)

Attributes
Hammer mastery ~ 16 (12+1+3)
Strength ~ 13 (11+2)
Tactics ~ 5 (4+1)

Skills
Mighty blow
Yeti smash
Hammer bash
Mokele smash
Enraging charge
Rage of the ntouka
Flail
Lions comfort

Useage
Select your target -> Hit enraging charge and mokele smash -> When you engage you instatly have 7 adrenaline -> Engage flail -> Throw off your attack skills -> Then hit rage of the ntouka -> Instant 6 adrenaline -> Hit -> Attack chain again -> Rinse and repeat .

It rocks!
You can replace the attack skills if you want and add a chain or something, but with no elite attack I coulnt be bothered to think one up. But repeated damage with a handy KD works quite well for me. Remember if you want to make full effect of the adrenaline gain you should take high adrenaline skills. Also enraging charge helps a lot if you need to break out of flail to charge across the battlefeild to a new target.

Please try this build then post back with your findings/critism/problems/changes. ^^

And Please, Please, Please dont just mouth off about it unless you have tried it and it was a big flop.

thanks

~A Leprechaun~

Doug the Head · Dec 12, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

I read over this build. It seems like it would work very well. I will defently try it out once i get those nightfall skills.

Tingi · Dec 12, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

when I see that a warrior build has no rez, outside of ABs and farming, I just stop reading...

A Leprechaun · Dec 12, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06

oh...why did you post then? o.O

jesh · Dec 12, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by Tan Blademaster

when I see that a warrior build has no rez, outside of ABs and farming, I just stop reading...

Haha. You can take out Lion's for a rez, of course. I love your reply, Leprechaun. I also love the build idea. To me, skills like Dragonslash are way over rated. There's too much downtime, and it seems to me like you could do more damage with heavy adrenaline gain. You've done just that here, good job.

Tingi · Dec 12, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

oh...why did you post then? o.O

to make a point maybe..?

Nickhimself · Dec 12, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59

You could add counterattack in there for heavy damage and easy energy regen. With your current Strength, you should get 6 or 7 Energy for a 5 Energy skill. Probably around 25 or 26 added damage, too.

just my 2 cents

Munanko Roha · Dec 13, 2006, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Really like the build, the only thing I don't like is the absence of Crushing Blow, Deep Wound is always a big pro. But for PvE it should work well even without it.

Tan, a Ress in PvE is not needed 'cause you shouldn't die if you are a half-good player. Neither should do the rest of your team.

A Leprechaun · Dec 13, 2006, 04:57 PM // 16:57

@ Nickhimself + Munanko Roha ~ Yeah i could try to add in another attack skill like, as you suggest, either cruishing blow or counterattack. I would probably go with crushing if i had to pick, as energy doesnt seem to be a problem for me as i have a Zealous hammer. Also the other trouble would be what skill to sub, it seems to me that my only options would be an attack skill or lions comfort. Which do you think?

Thanks everyone the feedback and support. It sounds like this is a new idea, so i think I'll credit myself for its creation. ^^

Keep it coming in.

~A Leprechaun~

*added*

useage
After using RotN remember to wait the 5 seconds for the cooldown on the adrenaline skills before using Enraging Charge + Mokele Smash.

Pick Me · Dec 13, 2006, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Leprachaun, is it just me or can you not put more points into Tactics. I think you should have 26 points after 12 and 11 into Hammer and Strength respectively. 6 points to make Tactics level 3, so wouldn't you be able to make it like 5 + 1 minor rune afterwards?

Otherwise it sounds like a very nice build.

I would drop Hammer Bash and pickup Irressitable Blow. Only because Hammer Bash drops all adrenaline.

A Leprechaun · Dec 13, 2006, 08:30 PM // 20:30

@ pick me ~ Pssst, dont tell anyone but i only have 185 attribute points .^^
Also its almost good that hammer bash gets rid of your adrenaline beacause with good timing you can get it all back straight away.

~A Leprechaun~

A Leprechaun · Dec 14, 2006, 10:26 AM // 10:26

anyone tryed this yet?

draxynnic · Dec 14, 2006, 01:29 PM // 13:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munanko Roha

Really like the build, the only thing I don't like is the absence of Crushing Blow, Deep Wound is always a big pro. But for PvE it should work well even without it.

Tan, a Ress in PvE is not needed 'cause you shouldn't die if you are a half-good player. Neither should do the rest of your team.

The thing with resses is... nineteen out of twenty times you won't need it. Even if someone goes down, you'll usually be able to get someone with a hard res to bring them back up. However... it's the one in twenty times where you DO that you end up with egg on your face if you don't have it.

In explorables, you may be able to get away with that at the cost of a little more DP. In a mission, though, you should try to have a res if your build has ANY leeway in order to incorporate it. And in PvE... I've heard the line "In PvP, the rezsig is king" spoken. Especially if it's a map where you have the potential to recieve regular morale boosts.

Hand of Ruin · Dec 14, 2006, 01:33 PM // 13:33

Flail = Free kite for targets... so I don't see this being used in pvp with flail, but it definately sounds like a nice PvE build. I'm considering setting up goren with this and see how he does.

Nexus Icon · Dec 14, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

If you've got 13 strength, I see no point in Dreadnought's armour when you could have Sentinel's.

As for there being too much downtime on Dragon Slash, that really made me chuckle.
That's what "For Great Justice!", Sun & Moon Slash and Enraging Charge are for

Oh, and conditions are over-rated for PvE where enemies can be completely immune to bleeding / poison etc.

Hammers are great fun, but I've always found swords and axes to be more effective in PvE.

I did come up with a nice, permanently interrupting hammer build once, but it was quite energy intensive and very fiddly. I might have another look at it now actually...

Nexus Icon · Dec 14, 2006, 02:48 PM // 14:48

Well I had no luck with the Perma-interrupt build (still FAR too energy-intensive, even with full Glad's and a +5e hammer), but I came up with an interesting knockdown build thanks to the OP making me reconsider Rage of the Ntouka:

16 Hammer
13 Strength

Frenzy
"You Will Die!" / Enraging Charge
Counter Blow
Hammer Bash
Rage of the Ntouka (E)
Staggering Blow
Heavy Blow
Res

and the more PvE one:
"For Great Justice!" (Optional really; probably better replaced with res TBH)
Enraging Charge
Flail
Counter Blow
Hammer Bash
Rage of the Ntouka (E)
Staggering Blow
Heavy Blow

Armour is Gladiator's for energy with Stoneskin Gauntlets, hammer, well, whatever is your favourite, but with any perma-stance build, I prefer a +15% while in stance.
I'm also a massive fan of elemental mods over both Vamp and Sundering, although a Zealous mod could prove useful. I usually dismiss Zealous mods on hammers, but with an IAS, they're more viable.

Give these builds a shot, see what you think, but I was pleasantly surprised at the number of knockdowns

A Leprechaun · Dec 14, 2006, 02:53 PM // 14:53

^
You have 2 skills which get rid of adrenaline this is 100% pointless. ^^

Also i dont have sentinals because i dont have enough money for another set of luxon 15k + 2 extra weapon helms, because i am a poorass. ^^

~A Leprechaun~

Nexus Icon · Dec 14, 2006, 02:59 PM // 14:59

Haha, try the build before criticising it.
You yourself should know the value of Rage of the Ntouka, and NEVER underestimate Enraging Charge.
Enraging Charge, then Flail.
Counterblow is knockdown number 1 if they're attacking (and EVERYTHING in PvE attacks)
Then when they get up, Hammer Bash should be charged.
WHACK, another KD.
Damn, no adrenaline, what to do?
I know! Rage of the Ntouka!
6 adrenaline, enough to charge Staggering Blow AND Heavy Blow, so hit them with both in succession for another KD.
Hopefully, Enraging Charge should have cooled down and you can start the whole thing over :P

Munanko Roha · Dec 14, 2006, 03:43 PM // 15:43

Hammer my first love...it looks slow and heavy, but you simply can't avoid to love his nearly infinite disruption caused by knockdowns...

Thomas.knbk · Dec 14, 2006, 03:47 PM // 15:47

hate to say this, but Flial is kite fodder and Blackout would destroy your entire build.